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Why is Genshin though of as a game for degenerates by many people?为什么原神被很多人认为是废人游戏?

Maybe it's because I live in Bulgaria which is a country that is kind of far behind in technology and cultural acceptance but a lot of times I mention I really like genshin to my classmates or some other people around my age many of them think of me as a loser or a degenerate. This has happened to me many times and I'm getting sick of it. I'll be just playing genshin on my phone and some of my classmates would walk by and say "why are you playing genshin" or "stop playing that anime game" they would laugh at me for it and I don't know why. I've become so insecure about it I always try to hide the game every time I play it in public now. There's also a lot of people I've heard online say that the game is for degenerates.

Why does the public have this opinion on genshin?
可能因为我住在保加利亚吧,这儿的科技水平和文化接受程度相对落后一些,但我跟同学等同龄人聊到我非常喜欢《原神》时,他们大部分都认为我是一个loser,一个废物。这种情况发生了无数次,我已经受够了。我现在只要在手机上玩原,就会有同学走过来说「你为啥要玩原神」或者「别再玩二次元游戏了」。他们会因此嘲笑我,我完全搞不懂。如今在公共场合我会想方设法掩饰我玩原神,因为这让我变得很没有安全感。而且网上有很多人说原神是废物才玩的。

为什么公众对原神有这种看法呢?

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1 @htp-di-nsw · 10 days agoNobody cares about this at all once you are an adult. Nobody I deal with on a daily basis even knows what Genshin is, except for what I have told them.一旦你成年就没人在乎了。我每天接触的人压根不知道原神是啥,除非我告诉他们。

3 @Whilyam · 10 days ago>>1
Nobody cares about this at all once you are an adult.
Part of becoming an adult is realizing how hilariously stupid people who put so much stake in these sorts of things are and how pathetic people who pick on other people for them are.
>>1
成年的一部分就是意识到过分关注此类事情的人有多么愚蠢,以及因此而欺负他人的人是多么可悲。

4 @Zesty_Crouton · 10 days ago>>3
How does that C.S. Lewis quote go?
'When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.'
>>3
C·S·刘易斯那句话怎么说来着?
“当我10岁的时候,我会偷偷地读童话故事,一旦被发现,就羞愧难当。现在我50岁了,则可以放心的读这些书。当我长大成人,把孩子气放到了一边;而那孩子气恰恰包括担心显得孩子气,以及对长大成人的渴望。”

5 @Klee_In_A_Jar · 10 days ago>>3
Yeah, that's part of actually maturing/growing up. I'm just saying that it is hard when the kids at your school pick on you cuz of stupid reasons.
>>3
是的,这是成熟/成长的一部分。我只是想说,当你学校的孩子们因为愚蠢的理由欺负你时,你很难接受。

6 @doiknowthis · 10 days ago>>3
You underestimate the amount of immature adults. Honestly these people sound like their emotional maturity stopped developing at the age of 13. I just watched a game news video and this guy said in a smug ass tone that he’s a grown man and he doesn’t play genshin impact. He doesn’t play genshin, but he makes clickbait game news for a living. This guy has wife and kid. What an elite snob.
>>3
你低估了低能成年人的数量。老实说,这些人的情感发育在13岁时就停止了。我刚看了一个游戏新闻视频,有个家伙自以为是地说,他是个成年人,他不玩原神。他不玩原神,但他靠编写营销号游戏新闻为生。这家伙有妻子和孩子。多么自我优越的小人啊。

11 @Username_is_unused · 10 days ago>>3
It can be part of growing up until the bully decides to use physical approach.
I don't just mean violence, the non-violence do exist like holding the device out of the target's reach, hiding the device, etc.
I hope I don't cause a misunderstanding, I didn't mean to shut you down, I'm just saying that some bullies were just too resolute to bullying or were just psychopaths.
>>3
这可能是成长的一部分,但当他们采取身体接触的方式继续这种行为时,那就是霸凌了。
不单单指暴力行为,非暴力欺凌确实存在,比如把设备放在你够不着的地方,或是直接藏起来等等。
我不希望让你误会,不是想让你停止玩原,我只是想说有些欺凌者执着于欺凌本身,要么他们根本就是精神变态。

12 @DearthMax · 10 days ago>>11
Yes, but being bullied isn't something inherently in your control, maturing/growing up or not. Doesn't matter how grown up/mature you are, if the bully hasn't had the same growth.
Part of growing up is knowing how to deal with bullies in a rational manner (I hesitate to use the word mature here).
>>11
是的,但被欺负并不是你天生就能控制的事情,无论你是否成熟/成长。不管你多大/多成熟,如果欺负人的人没有同样的成长。
成长的一部分是知道如何以理性的方式对待欺凌者(我不太愿意用成熟这个词)。

14 @ladyriven · 10 days ago>>3
Kids bully others for the most ridiculous reasons. Like when I was in elementary school I got bullied for wearing red knee socks. Like, who on Earth cares what color my socks are?
>>3
小孩欺负别人的理由非常可笑。比如我上小学的时候,因为穿红色过膝袜被欺负。谁TM要在乎别人袜子什么颜色?

19 @htp-di-nsw · 10 days ago>>3
Yeah, I mean, that's why I said "when you're an adult."
When I was in school, bullying was rampant, but now that my kids are in school, it's kind of... totally gone, which is amazing, but I take it as a win. Of course, this is the US, not Bulgaria, so, like I said: when you're an adult, nobody will care.
>>3
是啊,所以我说“等你成年就好。”

我还在上学时,霸凌十分猖獗,但现在看我的孩子们,学校里的霸凌似乎已经…完全消失了,真的十分惊喜,我将其视为一种胜利。当然,我人在美国,不是保加利亚,所以,就像我说的那样:当你成年了,没人会在乎的。

24 @Fit_Usual2909 · 10 days ago>>1
Incorrect, I'm in the army and catch shit all the time for playing it, and when I recommend it to people they're like "I'd rather kill myself"
So. Mm.
>>1
不对,我在军队里,玩这个游戏一直被嘲讽,当我介绍给别人时,他们会说“我宁愿去死”
所以。嗯。

25 @rW0HgFyxoJhYka · 10 days ago>>24
Yeah there's plenty of idiots in r/gaming who will shit on Genshin as soon as its mentioned. Not all of these people are kids. There's plenty of toxic racist asshole kids who are now 30 years old who play videogames and haven't changed a bit.
>>24
是啊还有一群r/gaming板块的傻x一听到原神就开始排泄,这些人不光是屁孩。还有一大群垃圾种族主义屁孩现在30了还在玩电子游戏一点没变。

30 @sohamk24 · 10 days agoAnime = bad, gacha = bad, anime gacha game = bad bad.二次元=bad,抽卡=bad,二次元抽卡游戏=bad bad。

31 @zedabo · 10 days ago>>30
Also china = bad, mobile = bad, and popular = bad. It's just a lot of things that a lot of people dislike(some with good reason) so they lash out at it because it's popular despite having so much "bad".
>>30
另外 china=bad,手机=bad,流行=bad。因为它涵盖了许多人讨厌的元素(虽然有些可以理解)所以他们不断抨击它,因为他们看不惯它即使存在这么多“bad”,却依旧很火。

32 @csudoku · 10 days ago>>31
to someone who knows nothing about genshin but looks at it they do not assume chinese game they assume japanese
this is because all they know is nintendo and sony = japan, so any game not made in the west is automatically made by japan to them
>>31
那些对原神一无所知的人,他们第一眼的印象,绝不会认为它是一款中国游戏,而是日本游戏。
因为他们全部认知只有任天堂+索尼= 日本,所以对他们来说,任何非欧美厂的游戏,都自动划分为日本做的。

33 @AttitudeFun1186 · 10 days ago>>32
Meh idk if I agree. Personally when I first got into the game I thought it was Japanese soley due to art style. At the time there weren’t many anime styled Chinese games trending in the media. Most people aren’t playing Genshin on PS4 either, usually mobile or PC.
>>32
嘛不是很同意,我个人第一次接触原神时,主要因为画风以为是日本游戏。那会儿网上还没有特别多二次元画风的中国游戏趋势,大部分人也不在PS4上玩原神,一般是手机和电脑。

34 @RaiderPirateAnteater · 10 days ago>>33
Genshin is regularly in the top 10 most played games on ps5
>>33
原神经常出现在ps5上玩得最多的前十名游戏中

35 @Alternative-Duty-532 · 10 days ago>>34
In terms of revenue, Genshin Impact has been ranked first on the PS platform for two consecutive years.
>>34
在收入方面,原神已经连续两年在PS平台上排名第一。

36 @csudoku · 10 days ago>>33
i know most people arent playing on ps4 the idea was more that big video game publishers a normal person who doesnt play video games will probably name off are microsoft, sony, and nintendo (maybe blizzard and riot if they are a little more hip) 2/3 of those are japanese companies
a lot of people in the space conflate the publisher with the developer and dont really care to see a difference
>>33
我知道大多数人不玩 PS4,这个想法更多是关于大型游戏发行商,一个不玩游戏的普通人可能知道微软、索尼和任天堂(如果他们再潮一点,可能加上暴雪和拳头) 其中2/3是日本公司。
很多人喜欢将发行商和开发商混为一谈,而且并不关心两者有什么区别。

37 @Tymareta · 10 days ago>>33
Especially back when it used to be "MiHoYo: Tech otakus save the world!", I can absolutely understand folks just seeing a trailer or a banner ad and not instantly assuming it was a Chinese dev.
>>33
特别是当它曾经是「MiHoYo:技术宅拯救世界!」的时候,我完全可以理解人们看到预告片或横幅广告时不会立即认为这是中国开发者做的

38 @Arielani · 10 days ago>>33
genshin was first launched on PS4 and there was a huge drama about it being a BOTW copycat. I assume many would assume its japanese cuz of that
>>33
原神最初是在PS4上发行的,并因为它是塞尔达的翻版而引起了轰动。我想很多人会因为这一点认为这是日本的

39 @Whimsycottt · 9 days ago>>32
I'm pretty sure the folks at Mihoyo intentionally made it feel Japanese, considering they used the Japanese romanization of Genshini instead of the much more Chinese sounding Yuanshen.
The word MiHoYo sounds more Japanese (or Korean) than it does Chinese for a reason.
Is a common practice in China to Japan wash their products bc a lot of westerners still think made in China = bad/cheap.
That's why Miniso and Temu stole were "inspired" by Japanese store aesthetic such as Daiso or Muji.
>>32
我敢肯定,Mihoyo的人故意让它感觉像是日本风格的,因为他们的名字用了日语罗马音Genshini,而不是听起来更像中文的Yuanshen。
MiHoYo这个词听起来更像日语(或韩语),而不是汉语也是这个原因。
在中国打扮成日本产品是一种常见的做法,因为很多西方人仍然认为中国制造=不好/便宜。
这就是为什么名创优品和Temu(拼多多海外版)的「灵感」来自于Daiso或无印良品等日本商店的美学。

40 @madnessfuel [Wandering into Fontaine ] · 10 days ago>>31
Worst part is it doesn't take the greatest "gacha connoisseur" to know that Genshin is one of the tamest titles in the market. It's just the most popular, so folks choose it as a sacrificial lamb of sorts.
I legit wonder how things would be like if something like Nikke was as popular as Genshin.
>>31
最糟的是,你不需要对「抽卡手游」有多了解也能知道,原神算得上同类型里最温和的了,只不过因为它的热度最高,所以人们多少将它选作了牺牲品。
如果妮姬跟原神一样火会是什么样,我都不敢想。

41 @lurkinglurkerwholurk · 10 days ago>>40
Not only just popularity I believe; I think people take one look at how much gems cost and instantly gasp at how expensive it is.
While not knowing that most other gatcha games do sell their stuff cheaper, but the “balance” of the gatcha means the other games need more of that stuff compared to Genshin (luck willing, of course).
>>40
我相信不仅仅是受欢迎,我认为人们一看到宝石的价格,就会立刻感叹它有多贵。
虽然我不知道大多数其他抽卡游戏确实以更便宜的价格出售他们的东西,但抽卡的“平衡”意味着其他游戏比原神更需要这些东西(当然,运气好的话)。

43 @Number_1_Kotori_fan · 10 days ago>>41
There are also gavha games like Azur lane that are really cheap for rolls and give out a bunch of free ones so you get the characters then buy the skins
>>41
还有像《Azur lane》这样的游戏,它们的抽卡非常便宜,并提供了许多免费抽卡机会,所以你可以获得角色,然后购买皮肤

44 @calmcool3978 · 10 days ago>>43
Yes but the economy is entirely different. Any game that gives a you a lot of "extra" pulls for characters means you most likely require those pulls to get through the game
>>43
是的,但经济完全不同。任何为角色提供大量“额外”吸引力的游戏都意味着你很可能需要这些吸引力才能通关

49 @HerrscherOfMagic [ Theatre Kids Rule The World! ] · 10 days ago>>31
So since Genshin is a popular Chinese mobile gacha game, does that make it "bad bad bad bad bad"? dang. that's a lot of bads x-x
>>31
既然原神是流行的中国抽卡手机电子游戏,那是不是指“bad bad bad bad bad”?囸,这也太多debuff了吧x-x

55 @ConfessorKahlan · 10 days ago>>30
more specifically it's the angle that the only reason people watch anime is for sexy cartoons. and in turn hentai.
>>30
这种观点具体来说,就是有些人觉得动漫宅都是冲着擦边动画才看的,然后就开始hentai了

56 @Ayetto · 10 days ago>>30
Little girl = Pword, yep that's a real thing i heard from someone lmao
>>30
小女孩=炼铜,我现实就是听见有人这么说的笑死

57 @TheSupremeLordOfCorn · 10 days ago>>56
i literally hate when this happens, just because that you main a short character/think that a short character is cute, people think your a pedo or some shi
>>56
我真的很讨厌这种说法,就因为你厨身高低的角色/觉得小矮子角色很可爱,人们就觉得你是炼铜什么的

61 @Jugatsumikka [ Cocogoat. Go find it. ] · 10 days ago>>30
You forgot "video game = bad", so anime gacha game = bad bad bad
>>30
你忘了「电子游戏=坏」,所以动画抽卡游戏=坏坏坏

65 @rakan24ar · 10 days agoThe guys i know who made fun of my game choices (genshin, Pokemon, zelda, yugioh) are the same guys who exclusively play COD/shooter games so i don’t really give a fuck about what they say我认识的那些嘲笑我游戏取向(原神,宝可梦,塞尔达,游戏王)的人都是只玩使命召唤等FPS的群体所以我根本不鸟他们一点

66 @UnfunnyGermanDude · 10 days ago>>65
Or the fifa bros. „Yeah I’m totally into it. I usually play cod, fifa and i bought Spider-Man 2.“
Oh my. Daring today, aren’t we
>>65
或者那些玩fifa的。“噢我可太爱了。我平常都玩cod,fifa,最近还刚入了超凡蜘蛛侠2。”

67 @rakan24ar · 10 days ago>>66
Fifa bros are the last people who can shit on genshin. At lest my gacha game have a big update every year and a not so small update every 40 days or so. And all of it for free. And I don’t lose my progress and characters
Fifa bros will by the same game every year with the only difference being menu changes, small game play tweaks, and patch notes for were every player is now. And rarely and i mean really rarely there is a big new thing like career mode. Oh and you lose all the players you have tuff luck start from scratch
>>66
最没资格喷原神的就是玩fifa的。至少我的抽卡游戏年年有大版本更新,每40天一个小版本更新。而且全是免费的。我也不会丢存档和角色什么的

Fifa玩家每年都要买同一款游戏,唯一的变化只有菜单样式,小幅玩法调整,和每个球员现在在哪的补丁说明。很少,我指极少才会有生涯模式这样的重大更新。哦,而且你会失去所有球员,那就只能从头再来了。

68 @Grimstarzz · 9 days ago>>67
Fifa is also a gacha game, with their Ultimate team (or whatever it is called), its just weird that those kinds of lootboxes are considered "normal" and other pulls in gacha games are bad.
If u ask me, all of those are bad and are all the same, u pay money and dont know what you'll get, atleast there is pity in most gacha games, but there isnt any guarantee you'll get what u want in lootboxes from many "normal" games.
>>67
Fifa也是一款抽卡游戏,其中有他们的终极队伍(或者别的叫法),奇怪的是,这些类型的战利品盒被认为是“正常的”,而其他抽卡游戏中的元素则是糟糕的。
如果你问我,我会说这些都很糟糕,而且都一样,你花钱却不知道你会得到什么,至少在大多数抽卡游戏中存在遗憾,但在许多“正常”游戏中,你并不能保证你能在战利品箱中得到你想要的东西。

75 @Still_Breadfruit2032 · 10 days ago>>65
I think the guys you know are racist towards Japan 😭
>>65
我认为你认识的那些人对日本是种族主义者😭

76 @rakan24ar · 10 days ago>>75
Funnily enough, the only one who said shit ton of racist comments about every living being is the one who introduced me to genshin.
>>75
有趣的是,唯一一个对每种生物都发表了大量种族主义言论的人,就是那个介绍原神给我的人

79 @AltairAmlitzer [Right here! Right now! Emerge] · 10 days agoIt's not you. It depends on the culture I guess. In my country genshin is popular and playing it isn't look down upon on. But if others look down on you for playing it has nothing to do with the game and probably has more to do with people's preconceived notions regarding anime culture as a whole. The game is fine, it has it's fare share of problems but I wouldn't call it degenerate. It's actually pretty tame compared to other gachas out there. One thing I can tell you is that the problem isn't you or the game. The people who made you feel insecure are just bothering you based on ignorance and they need to learn to mind their own business and stop giving you a hard time for playing a game that you like just because they can't understand it. Prejudice based on ignorance has never lead to anything good if history is anything to go by. I hope you have a nice day and know that while yes some people have a negative perception of this game that isn't a universal thing it just depends on where you live I guess.不是你的问题。我想这取决于文化。在我的国家,原神很受欢迎,玩它并不被轻视。但如果其他人因为你玩游戏而看不起你,这与游戏本身无关,可能更多的是由于人们对整个动漫文化的先入为主的看法。游戏很好,它有它的一部分问题,但我不会说它堕落。与其他抽卡游戏相比,它实际上是相当温和的。我可以告诉你的一件事是,问题不在于你或游戏。那些让你感到不安全的人只是在无知的基础上打扰你,他们需要学会管好自己的事,不要因为他们无法理解你喜欢的游戏而给你带来困难。根据历史经验,基于无知的偏见从来不会带来任何好事。我希望你有一个美好的一天,并且知道,虽然有些人对这款游戏有负面的看法,但这并不是一个普遍的事情,这只是取决于你住在哪里。

80 @comfykampfwagen · 10 days ago>>79
Can say that it’s all the rage among the youth and even sections of the middle aged in Singapore
>>79
可以说,在新加坡的年轻人甚至中年人中都很流行

81 @Ghost_1774 [husbando impact ] · 10 days ago>>80
I think this is true for many countries in SEA. Even my art teacher who doesn’t play any games, plays genshin. During one of her classes she was asking us to pull on her account cause her luck was super bad.
>>80
我认为东南亚的许多国家都是如此。就连我不玩游戏的美术老师也玩原神。在她的一次课上,她要求我们帮她的账号抽,因为她的运气非常糟糕。

82 @arthoarder91 · 10 days ago>>81
HYV games have always been popular in the SEA region. This is because they are the only company who even bother making local language (like Vietnamese, Tagalog, Bahasa Indonesia, etc...) ports of the game instead of just the usual Chinese, English, and Japanese trio.
>>81
mihoyo游戏在东南亚地区一直很受欢迎。因为他们是唯一一家制作本地语言(如越南语、他加禄语、印尼语等)移植游戏的公司,而不是通常的中文、英文和日文三种语言。

86 @koied · 10 days agoOnce you get out of highschool no one will care...
So much so, that when I want a new character I ask my workmates to pull for me, so maybe they'll bring me luck. With an other workmate we always discuss Star Rail, because he plays with that. (All this happening in an east european country so... But also gotta add, that at my workplace everyone plays with some kind of video game, so there's really no judgement coming from anyone)
等你高中毕业就没人在乎了…
事实上,我抽新角色时都会请我同事帮忙抽,说不定能沾点欧气。我还经常跟一个同事聊崩铁,因为他也玩那个。(虽然我是在东欧国家…但我要说明,我的公司里每个人或多或少都会玩某类游戏,所以真的不会有谁去评价什么)

87 @Ohyo_Ohyo_Ohyo_Ohyo [( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)o/ ̄ ̄ ̄] · 10 days agoThis sounds like a question for r/Nahida_Mains这似乎是r/Nahida_Mains(纳希坦)版块造成的问题

88 @LRTMK · 10 days ago>>87
It's content banned, I'm scared.
>>87
那里因为不妙的内容被封了,吓人

89 @Free_Raspberry_223 · 10 days ago>>88
They once posted some insane hentai of her and when I commented calling it disgusting I got downvoted to hell by the fans and everyone telling me to just “let people enjoy it” and how she’s “technically thousands of years old”
>>88
那边之前发了一些很疯狂的H图,当我评论说这很恶心时,我那楼被那群粉丝踩了个遍,所有人都叫我「让人们欣赏它」,以及她「严格来讲已经几千岁了」

95 @_Nepha_ · 10 days ago>>87
Did the FBI set that up?
>>87
是不是FBI用来钓鱼的?

96 @0kokaid · 10 days ago>>87
what the hell happened there
>>87
那里到底发生了什么

97 @Horus_Lupecal · 10 days ago>>96
“🦀😭💢” happened
>>96
发生了「🦀😭💢」

98 @0kokaid · 10 days ago>>97
what does crab crying angry mean
>>97
螃蟹哭生气是什么意思

99 @Distinct_Ad9206 · 10 days ago>>98
In Japanese, crab is kani which sounds like cunny
>>98
在日语中,螃蟹是kani,听起来像cunny

102 @Dependent-Bobcat9274 · 10 days agoHow old are you? Because once you leave the highschool-equivalents of your country, what you enjoy as an adult quickly doesn't matter. Don't listen to what your classmates think or whatever, it's literally irrelevant, letting them define your enjoyment of your life will only lead to regret in the future as you look back on how comically irrelevant these other classmates are你多大了?因为一旦你离开了你国家的高中,你作为一个成年人喜欢什么很快就不重要了。不要听你同学的想法或其他什么,这实际上是无关紧要的,让他们来定义你的生活乐趣只会让你将来后悔,因为你回想起其他同学是多么可笑的无关紧要

103 @Stiff_Rebar [ :nilou:] · 10 days ago>>102
At the end of the day, a harmless hobby is a harmless hobby. What really matters is how someone is in the real life.
>>102
归根结底,无害的爱好就是无害的爱好。真正重要的是一个人在现实生活中的表现。

104 @ShatteredSpace_001 · 10 days ago>>103
This is surprisingly difficult for so many people to grasp.
>>103
这对于很多人来说是难以理解的。

111 @ferreyran134 · 10 days agoThe most degenerated people on the anime fandom are the most loudest in the internet. Genshin is no exception, heck even here people post the 3d models of the characters to compare who have the bigger X (you know...) in the game, my personal advice is if you like the game just play it, if you care more about other than yourself then just quit the game动漫圈里最堕落的人是互联网上最吵的人。原神也不例外,甚至在这里人们也会发布角色的3d模型来比较谁在游戏中拥有更大的X(你懂的...),我的个人建议是,如果你喜欢这款游戏,那就玩它,如果你更关心其他事情而不是自己,那就退出游戏