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Love Live! Nijigasaki Gakuen School Idol Doukoukai 2nd Season Episode 1 Discussion「LoveLive!虹咲学园偶像同好会 第二季」第1集感想
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5/5:超爱! 110票 73.83%
4/5:喜欢 27票 18.12%
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1/5:厌恶 1票 0.67%
总票数:149
1楼:Aitakatta!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wrong file lol... Kasumin screwed it. But, maybe, that vid is more interesting than the real one even an action school idol is very interesting enough.(原文太长,略)Aitakatta!!!!!!!!!!!! (注:可能捏他自AKB48单曲 好想见你)
放错片了笑死…ksks背大锅。不过ng花絮感觉比正片还有趣,当然战斗系学园偶像也很赞啦。
岚珠vs侑0.o 岚珠反派感并不强烈,不过战争已经挑起来了。真是饶有看点呐。
岚珠的新歌Eutopia真是燃爆了,简直帅到飞起。初看就爱上了。ED还是一如既往的可爱。
2楼:Nijigaku Saturdays are back bitch!! Lanzhu masterclass incoming
Great episode omg, they did a great job setting up the conflict between Lanzhu and the girls, Shio was great, lanzhu performance was amazing, no complaints here. (原文太长,略)虹团周六夜又回来啦!!岚珠大师曲入场中
太精彩了这集omg,制作组对岚珠和同好会的冲突处理得非常巧妙,栞子可爱,岚珠的演出帅呆了,这集完全没得黑点。ED的画风也很绚丽!
看见珍妮弗也在这集登场还是挺意外的!这集的根基打得很牢,已经迫不及待想看下周的内容了
3楼:Yess!! The most anticipated anime sequel of my life is here.
I missed my sweethearts so much! ^_^ <3(原文太长,略)好耶!!我人生最期待的动画续集终于来了。
同好会的亲们真是想死我啦!^_^ <3
二期的开头既美好又有趣。放错视频那段属实是至宝了。xD
很爱岚珠的演出。光视觉方面就是纯粹的震撼了…
4楼:Where can I watch this episode? I was late for the live stream on the official youtube channel and I can’t find it on any streaming sites or apps.想问下在哪能看这集啊?我没赶上油管的官方放送,在其他网站和app上也没搜到。
5楼:Haha they are always doing their goofy stuff. Love Karin's puppy eye and Kasumin's messed-up hair. And damn that Lanzhu's solo slap and her majestic stage. They really did it again, but better.哈哈她们经常搞这种有趣的事故出来。果林的害羞脸和ksks的炸毛真是太可爱了。另外岚珠的solo曲配上那宏伟的舞台卧槽真尼玛帅呆了。制作组你们又做到了,而且这回做得更好。
6楼:Firstly, something of note since I'm actually extremely new to the franchise:
2 years ago “traditional” idol anime isn’t even on my horizon.(原文太长,略)我想先说些题外话,因为我完全是才刚入坑没几天的新人:
两年前“传统”偶像动画甚至还没进入到我的视野。
一年前我开始打算看下诸如爱生活/偶像大师/邦邦之类的动画。其实只是为了多找些猛男系番剧看,但它们还是没排进我的优先队列里去。
10天前我连认识的ll角色都没几个。
而现在我已经把ll列入了追番名单中,还确定了前三个团的推(明天我就开始看星)
真是个奇迹啊…
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嘛言归正传,还真是相当劲爆的一话啊(之前有听过手游相关剧情的流言),而且岚珠正好自称来自我的城市,真的有很多话想讲!
先说个趣事:如果岚珠真是来自我的城市,她很可能跟我们多数人有些交流阻碍,因为她在本集中除了日语外,还使用了两种不同的中文口语——虽然写起来(几乎)是相同的!
目前世界上的绝大多数中国人使用普通话来进行交流。但在香港(还有广州/深圳等地)的人还在使用一种(几乎)完全不同的语言/方言:广东话(听起来其实更接近古汉语,甚至日语,不过这又是另一回事了)。
本集中岚珠只说过一次广东话,在15:26左右的那句“没问题啦!”(冇問題啦)。除此以外的中文都是普通话。虽然外地人来这里的情况越来越普遍,但考虑到本地人几乎都只说广东话,所以她适应起当地的学校可能会有些困难。:)
她的声优似乎是小时候来广州生活过几年,所以这两种语言对她来说应该都没有问题。
(注:层主的意思应该是认为岚珠虽然从香港来到日本,但并非香港本地出身)
7楼:Episode 1 really great. Lanzhu sama please step on me初回太棒了,岚珠殿下请践踏我。
8楼:>> 4
It is being streamed on Crunchyroll.
How is it that the chinese spoken in a Japanese production sounds better than the Chinese spoken in a Chinese Production?回复4楼:
Crunchyroll上有在播。
为啥感觉日漫里的中文听起来比中国动漫里的中文要好一点?
9楼:>> 8
IIRC her VA lived in Guangzhou as a kid for several years so she does speak Chinese (both Mandarin and Cantonese) easily.回复8楼:
没记错的话,岚珠的声优小时候在广东生活过几年所以她能很流利地说出汉语(普粤都可)。
(注:译者感觉8楼问的是两国作品的配音差异)
10楼:For a first episode it was good对于开场来说很不错了。
11楼:Nice start for the 2nd season, the new chinese girl is pretty good even though she has a vanilla character design but her performance was great, though it seems like she won't join the club and she will compete against them to gather the most audience, interesting.给二期开了个好头,新加入的中国妹子虽然是反派设定但演出真的没话说,不过她似乎不打算加入同好会,还要与她们用观众一决高下,真是有趣。
12楼:THIS EPISODE WAS FIRE这 话 燃 爆 了
13楼:solid start for first ep of s2! eutopia is amazing. the niji girls goofing was pretty funny indeed. so far, lanzhu's introduction might be better than SIFAS already
looking forward to next ep!
also holy crap the intro was great and well animated相当不错的开头!eutopia非常震撼。虹团的日常花絮真是太好玩了。目前看来,岚珠的人设立的比SIFAS的强多了。
十分期待下一话!
最后想说开头那宣传片我靠真他妈酷炫。
14楼:Nice! I'm really looking forward to this because I play the game.精彩!我非常期待这季因为我有在玩手游。
15楼:Amazing first episode for season 2. Great performance by our semi-villain as well, really looking forward to what else she has in store. I'm just glad to see our main cast again for the next three months...印象深刻的第一集。半反派大小姐给我们带来的表演也很精彩,非常期待她个人线的剧情。接下来的三个月能再次看到虹团真的太开心了…
16楼:You can download it on nyaa.si可以在这下载 nyaa.si
17楼:The opening sequence was nuts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qskWvJMsfGo开场画面帅疯了。
18楼:Holy, what a fantastic new episode! What a great way to start the new season. I'm glad its still the god-tier CG. I was absolutely shocked how pristine it was back when season 1 started. (原文太长,略)靠,新剧情也太精彩了!二期的开头堪称完美。CG依然是神中神,兴奋。回想当初虹一季刚开始时,那种冲击视觉的场景给了我极大的震撼。以前使用过的照明/阴影/渲染技术同样继承到了新作品上。那集给我带来了很多欢乐,歌也是绝对的神曲。加上开头播放的超美的虹色Passions!给全剧开创了一个绝佳的观影氛围。期待后续剧情,好耶!
19楼:>> 4
It’s on Crunchyroll回复4楼:
Crunchyroll上。
20楼:Here I am. Watching the second season of the least interesting series of the Love Live franchise.
I have hope that Lanzhu will save this series来了来了。过来看爱生活最没意思的企划的第二季。
希望岚珠能挽救这一部的口碑。
21楼:Behind the scenes footage leaked, lmao.
From the stylish ad trailer with first OP instrumental to Lanzhu's solo performance, great start overall. I expected no less.内幕影像流出,笑死。
从带OP伴奏的气派宣传片到岚珠的solo首秀,全场高能的开场。我的期待只增不减。
22楼:Golly, this was a strong start. Can't wait to see what happens next. Lanzhu killed it!
This has already surpassed my expectations我去,初回真的可以。迫不及待想看接下来的展开了。岚珠全场杀疯了!
老实说这水准大大超乎我的预料。
23楼:It's nice to see Nijigasaki still bringing the animation quality and the energetic mood. Lanzhu's performance was amazing and I like the setup with her playing an antagonist role in the story. Can't wait to see more of Mia, Shioriko, and the rest of the crew.很高兴虹团继续给我们带来了高超的动画水准和活力四射的氛围。岚珠的表演真的强无敌,我也很喜欢她以主线反派的形象登场的设定。非常期待米娅,栞子等其他成员的表现。
24楼:IMO, Niji is the most interesting and diverse. It's just that they are not really an anime group and a lot of their content is from their game and a huge amount of side-content, making them some of the most developed characters in the franchise.回复20楼:
草,虹是最有趣和最具个性的一部好吧。只不过她们不是那种标准的团体形式,剧情你还是得看手游里大量的支线内容,绝对是企划中形象塑造最好的角色。
25楼:yeeeeeaaaaaaahhhhhhh boyyyyyyyyyyyyy s2 is here!!!!!!!!!!
am looking forward to lanzhu content thanks耶耶耶耶耶耶耶耶耶 冲啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊二期来啦啦啦啦啦啦!!!!!!!!!!
就想看岚珠戏份多谢。
26楼:Lanzhu stomped them hard. Not disappointed at all. Looking forward for what they will do for the whole season. I'm hoping for hardcore conflict but since drama ingame didn't worked good for japanese fans my expectations are low.岚珠一登场就给众人来了个下马威。完全没令我失望。期待她们这季的应对表现。我很爱看激烈的冲突场面,不过因为手游的这部分内容似乎日本粉丝并不买账,我的期待也不高。
27楼:The best Love Live series is back. And that opening sequence was awesome. We have the inclusion of Shioriko, Lanzhu and Mia this season and it's gonna be great. (原文太长,略)最爱的ll企划回来了。开头的剪辑真是帅呆了。这季又加入了栞子,岚珠,米娅登场绝对神作预定。虹的mv还是一如既往地对我胃口,岚珠的新曲燃爆了。酷炫。万分激动地期待这一季
28楼:It's finally time! I've been counting down the days till I got to see my babies again >_<
(原文太长,略)终于来了!最后这几天我一直在倒计时苦等,现在终于能见到我的小天使们了呜呜呜>_<
虹团这次换上冬季校服了,侑转到了音乐科,然后是新学期的开学日。很棒的开场方式。这话看来侑是有点用力过猛了,量力而行就好噢小侑。做个计划表吧,疏于规划则在规划失败。
新角色也都出场了。从初回来看,我获得的信息如下:
目前看来,她们还不会接受同好会的主张。岚珠要以solo形式与同好会竞争。当然之后可能会改变,不过暂时她就以独狼的身份来吸引粉丝了。希望她别像游戏里那么冷淡,不过不管怎样问题总会解决的,她也会转变心意。
米娅当然还是岚珠的跟班,但让她出现在我屏幕上多少次我也愿意。尤其是在她用完全不美国而是澳洲的口音讲话的时候。内田秀天下第一兄弟们。
栞子目前还是扮演着学生会的参与型角色,真心希望不要让她上演权力争夺的戏码。因为这不仅会把她变成一个不讨喜的角色,也会间接导致中川菜菜的消失(因为最终雪菜会揭露她的双重身份,并且以偶像身份自由活动下去),而我不想失去中川菜菜。
先不论AS的剧情改编得如何,我很开心能再次见到虹团。真的太想念她们了。
最后这老哥安利了下他的频道
www.youtube.com/GAMEOVERLOSER69
29楼:After almost 2yrs of waiting for Nijigasaki S2 it’s finally here!!! Episode 1 of S2 was so good I low-key screaming in my head and the most funny part of episode 1 was that the girls chose the wrong files. (原文太长,略)等待了近两年的虹团二期终于放送了!!!第一集的观感真的太棒了看的时候我脑子的一部分一直在兴奋地叫喊,最有意思的地方就是她们放送事故那块了。我很开心ll周六又回来了,现在每天都有充足的动力去欣赏荧幕上的少女们。虽然知道13集(还是说12集)的故事一转眼就过去了,但我会充分享受和期待接下来的这些时光!!!
30楼:I can't be the only one who noticed this "Nozomi" lookalike lmao肯定不止我一个幻视成东条希的吧Imao
31楼:How would I love a full show about the idols having powers and kicking ass, it looked great.突然好想看超能力系偶像大杀四方的故事是怎么回事,这看着好有意思。
32楼:I don't like Lanzhu and I doubt I will ever like her.
Fight me.我讨厌岚珠,以后估计也不会喜欢她。
不服来打我啊。
33楼:Lol at Karin getting caught in 4K.
And wow, that sure was an arrogant Idol song. No idea how this Lanzhu girl will manage to beat a whole Idol club with her "a real Idol does not need fans" nonsense but we will see.(原文太长,略)看到果林睡颜被4k投放全场我直接笑死。
另外那首solo真是狂气十足,哇撒。不知道这位岚珠大小姐要如何用“真正的偶像不需要粉丝”的谬论来干倒整个同好会,不过我拭目以待。
总的来说,我最喜欢的ll企划终于回来了。这集整场下来都很不错,各方面来看。
34楼:Say what you want about Lanzhu's personality, but that solo song slapped.
I know she's a controversial character but I personally didn't find her dislikeable this episode.
(原文太长,略)随你怎么说岚珠的性格,solo曲帅炸了好吗。
我知道她是个有争议的角色,但这集看下来个人并没有找到她惹人厌的地方。她目前给人的印象大概是任性自负,有着极高的理想,但这些极端属性基本是为了保证角色以后能有充足的发展空间才设定的。
我是资深SIFAS玩家但我没看过游戏剧情 不是。我很期待新角色的积极活动,对不了解她们的我来说(虽然天天都能看到她们的卡面Imao),这集是个非常优秀的角色介绍回。
35楼:Starting off the new season with a bang, Lanzhu's song was an amazing listen~!
The mix up was hilarious, it was nice for the girls to reveal more about themselves to their fans even if it was an error haha. (原文太长,略)新一季以非常劲爆的内容展开了,岚珠的曲子百听不厌~!
放错了视频真是笑得我不行,虹团给粉丝们展现自己私下的一面真的很可爱虽然是事故哈哈。果林立完flag被打脸时手足无措的慌乱样子真是可爱死了^o^
岚珠最后展示了她的理念,如果能打造第二个学园偶像祭就太好了,嗨起~☆
36楼:the Love Live that has made me spend so much is back. Nice to see everyone again! ^^
enjoyed Lanzhu's debut song.
looking forward to the next episodes.入坑许久的Love Live又带着新一季动画归来了。很高兴能再次见到各位!^^
喜欢岚珠的首秀曲。
期待下一集的内容。
37楼:Finally time for my favorite shounen show.
Still not beating idolmaster in terms of rawness.终于到了我最喜欢的少年漫时间了。
从新鲜感来说还是没能打败偶像大师。
38楼:I've found out the other one too, it's Rakshata, like Jennifer a N card on sif回复2楼:
我也认出旁边的那个角色了,是拉克夏达,跟珍妮弗一样都是sif的N卡
39楼:I don't get how such a cinematic masterpiece as LL Nijigasaki starts with 7.56, while LL Superstar started at 8 from day one, not to diminish SS, but it was dull and an objectively weaker LL imo (among the more SoL oriented ones like the OG and Sunshine that is)(原文太长,略)实在搞不懂虹团这样的杰作怎么评分从7.56开始,星团放映第一天也起码8分 起步的啊,不是踩星,但我觉得那是内容比较无聊,主线也不明显的一部ll(跟初代和Sunshine那种日常定位的系列一样的感觉)
第一话给人印象非常深刻,几乎和偶像大师旗鼓相当。我已经能断言二期的结果绝对和一期一样不会差。
又加:我挺喜欢钟岚珠的,她高水平的竞争力和理念给ll提供了更丰富的设定和新鲜感,她的行为又激发了已经稳定下来的虹团的竞争意识,并加剧了紧张气氛。刚才我发现有些人不喜欢她,但她的人设毫无疑问给这个系列增添了宝贵价值。
40楼:Lanzhu's debut performance was great!岚珠的初登场表演好帅!
41楼:After watching everything back in November/December I can 100% say that my most hyped anime is back. And for some reason now I feel like rewatching Muse and Aqours all over again.
Here comes to a great spring season everyone!在看过所有11/12月的番剧之后,我可以100%负责任地说,我最爱的动画系列终于回来了。出于某些原因,我又想重温一遍缪水了。
好日子来临嘞大家!
42楼:One of my most awaited shows this Spring 2022. It's finally here!! I feel like crying. Everythign's beautiful. Lanzhu's song is on fire. Her performance was beyond awesome. Also loved the visuals.Can't wait for the next ep!! wahoo今年春季最期待的动画之一。终于上映了!!开心得想哭。一切都那么美好。岚珠的单曲很燃。她的表演已经无法用帅形容了。另外视觉效果也很棒。迫不及待想看下一话!!芜湖
43楼:Ah yeah, it’s time for a new season of Love Live Nijigasaki, I’ve been patiently waiting for this one and the wait was worth it, this was a great first episode, and they wasted no time introducing the new girls.(原文太长,略)好哎,虹团的新一季到来了,我一直以来的耐心等待是值得的,第一集的内容很精彩,而且制作组没有浪费一点时间介绍新角色。
感谢ksks把花絮当成正片拿出来,开学日直接演变了一场灾难,每个人的反应都有趣极了,尤其是果林的哈哈哈,还要感谢新来的少女岚珠,用一场震撼的演出扭转了局势,歌曲也非常好听,虽说不赞同她的理念不过我已经喜欢上她本人了lol,很高兴自可可以来又见到一位中国角色。
本集对其他新角色的介绍相对简短,不过我应该都会喜欢她们的。接下来的数周我绝对是鸡血状态,虹团是我当初2020年秋季的入坑作,看到二期的回归真的超开心,加上正好赶上我最爱的一位偶像小雫的生日!这次ED也依然喜欢,完全可以与一季的“Neo Sky, Neo Map”相媲美!
44楼:Who were the two girls post-credits? (Jennifer and Rakshata from SIF I think after googling around)片尾的两个妹子是谁?(谷歌了一圈发现是sif里的珍妮弗和拉克夏达)
45楼:Respectfully and wholeheartedly disagree, SS for me is by far the best-written LL show so far. Nijigaku S1 one of the weakest imo. Poor pacing, forced character intro episodes that didn't really flow with each other nor fit an overarching narrative. (原文太长,略)回复39楼:
尊重你的观点但全力反对,星是我迄今看过写得最好的ll动画。个人认为虹1期是剧情最薄弱的一部。蹩脚的节奏,牵强的个人线,既不能流畅地将各个角色联系起来,也没有讲好一个完整的故事。缺乏大方向/主线就更不用说了。
所以我非常希望岚珠能起到一个真正的“驱动”作用并且让这季多少有些专注的东西。
46楼:Lanzhu is very sex and Kasumin is very cute
Also if we're adding n-girls Mikoto would be very cool although we know thats not happening..岚珠非常性感,小霞霞非常可爱。
另外要是制作组能加上n卡福原命就好了虽然我也知道这不现实…
47楼:I can’t wait to see more! I can’t wait to see more of the new characters!没有下一集看我要死了!快让我看更多的新角色啊!
48楼:I absolutely loved the first season so I'm glad this is back! Was curious whether this season was going to be more of the same (not that I'd complain), but with Lanzhu being the School Idol Club's rival while they're all in the same school definitely sounds interesting.(原文太长,略)超爱第一季的所以看到第二季开始放映很开心!本来还挺好奇剧情走向会不会和一季差不多(就算一样也不会抱怨就是),但是随着岚珠掀起了校内偶像竞争的帷幕感觉真的太惊喜了。Eutopia也是一记重磅炸弹,噢天,这场MV实在太精彩了,开头的宣传片也要特别点名称赞。一季当时的渲染特效完美契合了剧情上的铺垫,起到了一个锦上添花的效果,所以我很激动这次依然能见到如此精致的视觉盛宴。
49楼:Damn, the cinematography in the trailer and Lanzhu’s performance was amazing! Off to a pretty strong start here.
Pres can barely hold her real self and desires back, and that’s funny to see. (原文太长,略)牛逼,宣传片的剪辑和岚珠的演出都屌到炸天了! 目前奠定了一个很坚实的开端。
会长很轻易就暴露出自己真实的一面和渴望,每次看到这点都感觉非常有趣。花絮里果林酱对艾玛撒娇的样子也很有爱。其他角色依然保持原本的个性,看到这些就很满足了。
我对普通话和广东话的掌握并不能说擅长,虽然已经在这两个地区生活了有近10年,但我觉得岚珠在这集里说得基本都是普通话。对于听不懂我在说啥的人,香港说广东话lol。
总之这事先放一边,感谢她用自己的手段巧妙化解了这次的危机。另外倒也没料到有位操着一口英式口音的新角色登场,为什么她会追随深受英国影响的香港出身的少女岚珠?
我本来打算在这季播出前就补完初代和水团,不过现在看来估计得等这季播到一半了。嘛,我猜也不算太坏。
50楼:>> 49
I think because her seiyuu more fluent in Mandarin than Cantonese because of that staff decide to use Mandarin in anime dialogue script?回复49楼:
可能是因为岚珠的声优普通话相对说得更流利所以staff决定台本用普通话来讲?
51楼:>> 50
Well, I suppose that might be true. I just did a Google search on the VA and found out that she stayed in Guangdong for a long time and has a Chinese mother too. Both languages are spoken there but I’m pretty sure Mandarin is more common.回复50楼:
嗯,可能是吧。我去查了一下,她在广东待了挺久的,母亲也是中国人。那边两种语言都会说不过普通话肯定更常用。
52楼:>> 45
I disagree to your disagreement. To me SS was more of the same goofey carefree thing Love Live started with, with few differences: Fewer cast, and the school wasn't in risk of closing. (原文太长,略)回复45楼:
我反对你的反对。我对星团的印象是Love Live初代那种搞笑日常+没什么需要顾虑的氛围,不同点也就:主角少了,也没有废校危机。星的角色缺乏特点,并不像U‘s那样令人难忘,更别提LL全系列都存在的角色属性重合问题了(尤其是早就烂大街的学生会唱反调一类套路)
虹团完全跟这点不一样,它给LL企划开创了全新的思路,和偶像大师比较相似(这才是巅峰,也同样拥有跟虹团一样的角色塑造回),它有着更高的竞争性和竞争行为,更好的角色,更深层的主题,出色的音像作品(尤其是初登场solo曲),最重要的是,它有一个更严肃的基调,由此与其主题一起产生了奇效,进而让我对此投入了比其他LL企划更多的精力,
53楼:That was a good first impression of the 2nd season, can't wait to see Mia and Shioriko in action especially Mia就二期的第一印象来说很不错,想尽早看到米娅和栞子的个人回特别是米娅。
54楼:Anigasaki 2nd season leaves "us" a very shounen-esque PV and expected from mecha anime god, Sunrise.
And glad Lanzhu, Shioneko I mean Shioriko and Mia now being animated.(原文太长,略)萝卜片之神的Sunrise从虹二期的宣传开始就给“我们”展现了一个非常少年漫风格的PV,令人十分期待。
另外也很高兴能看到岚珠,栞子和米娅在新动画中登场。
现在的故事是手游SIFAS里饱受争议的剧情的改编版。
掘内监督也回来了,同时给岚珠酱在她的PV Eutopia里带来了无可匹敌的魅力,太性感了岚珠看得我想去立刻找你的涩图看 (注:原文用的是cheems的bonk梗,大概是这方面意思)
动画方面制作得很高明,岚珠Eutopia的CGI和自身形象协调性极佳。
此外,N卡少女们也有了自己的声音了:
拉克夏达(左)—山北早纪
珍妮弗(右)—寺川爱美
总而言之,十分精彩的一集。
55楼:Ah finally it's here , let's go baby啊终于等来了,大家冲啊